[slim-vim] Slim-vim, future and milestones.

[Brad Beveridge]

On 21/06/06, Larry Clapp <larry at theclapp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 11:12:35AM -0700, Brad Beveridge wrote:
> > These pages really need to be added to and cleaned up.  The Perl
> > page needs to be marked historic and have obvious links added to a
> > new page describing Slim-vim.  Slim-vim really needs a new page that
> > is structured similarly to the old Perl page, but with updated
> > information.
> > Also, we need to google for things like "vim lisp" "vim slime" and
> > change the top hits to include references to Slim-vim, or contact
> > maintainers of "Using Lisp with Vim" style pages and make them aware
> > of us.  Any volunteers? :)
>
> I can take a look at both of these.  Any else, of course, is welcome,
> too.
>
> > This might sound ambitious, but I would like to see a Slim-vim alpha
> > release by the end of July, and a beta release by the end of August.
> > This is actually doable, I'm making good progress and we have
> > reference code in the form of existing Slime, and we have a very
> > well defined feature set.  I think that it might be time to start
> > getting non-code things (documentation, googleability) prepped for
> > the end of July, and I'd like to generate a bit of excitement for
> > this project.  I don't really want to "announce" to CLL until we
> > reach a solid alpha, but I would like to tell the Gardeners about
> > Slim-vim at the start of July (pre-alpha) and try to get some more
> > users and testers.
> >
> > What do you guys think?  How many people are willing to:
> > 1) Use Slim-vim in its pre-alpha form, ie right now and for another
> > 5/6 weeks? (Note, I expect that I'll be making big steps in
> > functionality from here on out, stuff should get better every day)
> > 2) Use Slim-vim in alpha?  We ought to be almost functionally
> > complete, I'd guess 80-90% of features, with the everyday use
> > features all done.  There will still be bugs.
>
> I'll volunteer for both.
>
> > End of July : Announce Alpha level code to CL-Gardeners, CLL and
> > anybody who will listen.  I'd like us to be first page Google hits
> > by end of July for "vim lisp".  Binary builds of Vim+ECL for major
> > platforms would be a bonus.
>
> I can do Linux & Windows+Cygwin.  I might be able to do a native
> Windows build (I'm not familiar with free, native MS compilers).
>
> > Oh, BTW - would it be useful to forward changelogs to the list as I
> > check stuff in?
>
> I think so.
>
> -- Larry
>

I'm away for the 4th July weekend, but might get some more time Monday
or Tuesday next week.
I have a few more things on my list of immediate TODO:
 - display locals in the backtrace on demand
 - navigate the inspector and debug windows with mapped keys

At that stage I will need to re-evaluate where we stand, I'm torn by two factors
1) I want the code usable and being used by testers
2) The code is beginning to suffer bit rot and will need to cleaned up.

I'm not going to do #2 before #1,but I'd like to hope that we're
pretty close to #1.

Cheers
Brad