[Gardeners] Here I am

[Tomi Neste]

Luke Crook <luke at balooga.com> kirjoitti Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:23:54 +0300:

>  <matthieu.villeneuve at ...> writes:
>
>>
>> Quoting Nicolas Martyanoff <khaelin at ...>:
>> > - A modern and fully usable GUI (with anti-aliasing, a
>> > lot of widgets, unicode text rendering, if possible with a GUI builder
>> > application). I just saw that there was McClim, going to try it today,
>>
>> You may find that CLIM's learning curve is rather steep, or that
>> McCLIM still lacks a nice set of widgets, but CLIM is very powerful
>> (and worth learning as a very well designed Lisp library, IMHO).
>
> How would CLIM be used with PAL? CLIM doesn't have a supported OPENGL  
> backend.
> It can't render to a SDL surface. Does CLIM maintain its widgets in some  
> kind
> of internal Lisp representation that allows blitting to an external  
> backend?
> Also, win32 is very much unsupported, correct?
>
> - Luke
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AFAIK CLIM is designed to be implemented on top of different backends,  
with either lisp hosted widgets or using some external widget toolkit.  
Most popular backend seems to be the X11 one that uses lisp widgets but  
there is also a gtk based backend and an old opengl backend (or beginnings  
of it), but I don't think the latter is really in usable state.

SDL backend should be quite possible but I'm not sure how big of an  
project that would be, especially if one is already not that familiar with  
McCLIM.

As for running McCLIM in Windows, it seems to work quite well with  
win32/X-server like XMing.

-- 
tomppa