[Gardeners] CL Gardeners: good news, bad news, how to win big

[Jeremy Smith]

On Wednesday 22 February 2006 21:30, Peter Seibel wrote:
> On Feb 22, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Smith wrote:
> > Peter Siebel's comment about how I should have to pay a Lisp vendor
> > to ask
> > them to install ASDF seems wrong to me, because the suggestion is
> > not for my
> > benefit, but theirs. I will just continue using Clisp in the
> > meantime, and
> > the more dependent I get on it, the less interested I am in porting
> > all my
> > code to, say, Lispworks, because it might be 20% faster.
>
> You're right that they should do this for their own benefit. But at
> the same time, it's not clear that using the Gardener's project to
> unleash (however well-meaning) distributed denial of service attacks
> on Lisp vendors' mailboxes does us any good. That was the only reason
> I suggested folks avoid emailing vendors with whom they have no
> dealings.
>
> -Peter

Hi,

I understand. I didn't intend the consequences of my post to be a large-scale 
mass mailing to Lisp vendors, and unfortunately I forgot there's 400 people 
on the list. My apologies for not thinking it through properly.

I suppose the best course of action would have been to email them myself. I 
have dealt with Franz before and they are very friendly to my suggestions, 
although I run a commercial/money-making non-web related product on Lisp so I 
am a potential customer.

So I agree with you and I don't advocate anyone to email a Lisp company that 
they weren't already going to.

Cheers,

Jeremy.